[alicebot-style] Re: alicebot-style digest, Vol 1 #106 - 4 msgs

Dr. Rich Wallace alicebot-style@list.alicebot.org
Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:33:04 -0500 (EST)


Thanks for the recommendation.  There are obviously a lot of choices. 
Ideally I would like something that looks as nice as Wikipedia but is easy
to install and maintain.  (Maybe this is impossible :)  Any
recommendations appreciated.

Also, has anyone else noticed the similarity between rss format and AIML?
It would be pretty simply to rewrite rss <item>, <title>, and
<description> as AIML <category>, <pattern> and <template>.  I'm still
investigating to find out if we can adapt other RSS tags to <that> and
<topic>.  But it might be an interesting way to distribute new AIML on top
of existing tools.

>
> I think a Wiki is a great idea. Here is a page with a list of Wiki
> software available in different languages:
> <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines>. A quick look showed me that some
> export PDFs. It seems the 'information manipulation' requirement that
> you need will be described as 'refactoring'.
>
> Apart from the code aspect of development there is also the 'poetics' or
> design approach to creating a bot character. There are 3 of us that are
> starting up a discussion blog, of which bot design for storytelling is a
> topic. (I think Richard, Mark has already contacted you). It would be
> good to be able to cross refer between the blog discussion and the
> Wiki!?
>
> Christy
>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:05:29 -0500 (EST)
>> From: "Dr. Rich Wallace" <drwallace@alicebot.org>
>> To: <alicebot-style@list.alicebot.org>
>> Subject: [alicebot-style] Collecting AIML
>> Reply-To: alicebot-style@list.alicebot.org
>>
>>
>> > Must be tired of hearing yes by now.
>>
>> Not at all.  I am delighted by the interest.
>>
>> I have been thinking hard about the problem of building up the free
>> AIML content, which was sort of what this list was intended for.
>>
>> Gary Dubuque generously sent me a list of duplicate categories he
>> found.  But it was very long and I have been lazy about going through
>> the updates. I really do appreciate people sending me updates and
>> corrections, but I'm also a bad bottleneck.
>>
>> Mostly it is easy to add new content through the Targeting program,
>> but the way it is configured all the new AIML goes into the one
>> update.aiml file, so I have to go back later and resort it manually
>> into the 50 or so AAA files.  It would be nice if Pandorabots (or some
>> other Targeting interpreter) had a "save in File..." command.  So I'm
>> even my own worst bottleneck.
>>
>> But even more ambitously, it would be great if the AAA files could
>> somehow be opened up to the public for editing and contributions.  We
>> purchased the Wiki book, but the free software on the CD rom is from
>> 2001.  I haven't figured out how to get their latest stuff, or even if
>> they offer it.  Even then, there is the somewhat Hurculean task of
>> figuring out how to represent the AIML in a Wiki.  One AIML file per
>> Wiki page? Or one category?  And then how to compile the edited Wiki
>> back into AIML files?
>>
>> One AIML spinoff company, http://www.ai-buddy.com/, has an interesting
>> feature that allows botmasters to share AIML "modules" on topics like
>> jokes, astrology, or sports.  Oddly, the shared AIML source code
>> cannot be viewed or downloaded.  We have offered something similar
>> mainly with foreign language AIML sets, but it would be great to
>> figure out how to encourage more sharing of open source licensed AIML
>> sharing.
>>
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Dr. Rich
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