[alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>

[Noel Bush]

It would be interesting to hear more about how useful you find AIML in 
the way you're using it.  It does seem to have this "general purpose" 
capability, albeit with some gaps, but I don't know whether anyone has 
really kept up an effort to implement something like you're describing 
using AIML.  And it would be interesting to see AIML evaluated against 
other tools for the same kind of front-end purposes.

R. Vince wrote:
> Absolutely, but, the clarification (ambiguity reduction) seems to be at 
> about the square root of the effort, which is fortunate. That is, if I do 4 
> units of work, I reduve 2 units of ambiguity. If 16 units of work,. w units 
> of ambiguity. In other words, since I know we'll never get 100% absence of 
> ambiguity (in fact, human beings themselves dont get this), if we can get a 
> good chunk of ambiguity resolved, it's worhtwhile I find.
> 
> But you;re right, it's monstrous to do even that! -Ralph
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Noel Bush" <noel at aitools.org>
> To: "Alicebot and AIML General Discussion" 
> <alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>
> 
> 
>> And I think that a linguist would tell you that it has consumed
>> uncountable person-decades of many people's time.  ;-)
>>
>> R. Vince wrote:
>>> Yes! There are POS taggers, but, it is the resolution of ambiguity via
>>> context after the initial tagging, to correctly tag, that is the 
>>> challenge,
>>> and has consumed uncountable hours of my time! -Ralph Vince
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Noel Bush" <noel at aitools.org>
>>> To: "Alicebot and AIML General Discussion"
>>> <alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now if it were only possible to accurately identify (or even define, in
>>>> some cases) "parts of speech"..... :-)
>>>>
>>>> R. Vince wrote:
>>>>> Though not part of the AIML spec (and I am mentioneing this solely for
>>>>> the
>>>>> sake of some future coder faced with this problem, and how I resolved
>>>>> it), I
>>>>> tag the tokens with Part of Speech Tags as a pre-stage as part of the
>>>>> Normalizing process, before Normalizing. If the POS's on either side of
>>>>> the
>>>>> comma are the same (e.g. Jack/NP ,/CC Jill/NP) I convert the comma into
>>>>> the
>>>>> coordingating conjunction 'and' (thus producing Jack/NP and/CC 
>>>>> Jill/NP).
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand, if the POS's on either side of the comma are NOT the
>>>>> same, I remove the comma (e.g. "In/CD the/DT end/NN ,/CC no/DT one/NN
>>>>> cares/VBZ" thus becomes ("in/CD the/DT end/NN no/DT one/NN cares/VBZ").
>>>>>
>>>>> Essentially, if you wanted, a semicolon could be treated the same way.
>>>>> But
>>>>> again, this is off-spec. I simply have incorporated it because I am
>>>>> working
>>>>> on parsing text via AIML as a front end to a larger system.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ralph Vince
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "mehri" <foreverlinux at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran into a particular issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some AIML files are written with comma's in <that> and
>>>>>> some are not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <that>PRESS 1 TO KNOW WHAT THE MOUSE EATS, AND TO
>>>>>> DISCOVER ITS COLOUR</that>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and some are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <that>PRESS 1 TO KNOW WHAT THE MOUSE EATS AND TO
>>>>>> DISCOVER ITS COLOUR</that>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do believe that <that>'s shouldn't contain comma's
>>>>>> or other punctuation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't see anywhere in the spec pointing to this
>>>>>> specifically, unless I missed something again in the
>>>>>> specification :-P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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