[alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>

[R. Vince]

Absolutely, but, the clarification (ambiguity reduction) seems to be at 
about the square root of the effort, which is fortunate. That is, if I do 4 
units of work, I reduve 2 units of ambiguity. If 16 units of work,. w units 
of ambiguity. In other words, since I know we'll never get 100% absence of 
ambiguity (in fact, human beings themselves dont get this), if we can get a 
good chunk of ambiguity resolved, it's worhtwhile I find.

But you;re right, it's monstrous to do even that! -Ralph

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Noel Bush" <noel at aitools.org>
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Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>


> And I think that a linguist would tell you that it has consumed
> uncountable person-decades of many people's time.  ;-)
>
> R. Vince wrote:
>> Yes! There are POS taggers, but, it is the resolution of ambiguity via
>> context after the initial tagging, to correctly tag, that is the 
>> challenge,
>> and has consumed uncountable hours of my time! -Ralph Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Noel Bush" <noel at aitools.org>
>> To: "Alicebot and AIML General Discussion"
>> <alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>
>>
>>
>>> Now if it were only possible to accurately identify (or even define, in
>>> some cases) "parts of speech"..... :-)
>>>
>>> R. Vince wrote:
>>>> Though not part of the AIML spec (and I am mentioneing this solely for
>>>> the
>>>> sake of some future coder faced with this problem, and how I resolved
>>>> it), I
>>>> tag the tokens with Part of Speech Tags as a pre-stage as part of the
>>>> Normalizing process, before Normalizing. If the POS's on either side of
>>>> the
>>>> comma are the same (e.g. Jack/NP ,/CC Jill/NP) I convert the comma into
>>>> the
>>>> coordingating conjunction 'and' (thus producing Jack/NP and/CC 
>>>> Jill/NP).
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, if the POS's on either side of the comma are NOT the
>>>> same, I remove the comma (e.g. "In/CD the/DT end/NN ,/CC no/DT one/NN
>>>> cares/VBZ" thus becomes ("in/CD the/DT end/NN no/DT one/NN cares/VBZ").
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, if you wanted, a semicolon could be treated the same way.
>>>> But
>>>> again, this is off-spec. I simply have incorporated it because I am
>>>> working
>>>> on parsing text via AIML as a front end to a larger system.
>>>>
>>>> -Ralph Vince
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "mehri" <foreverlinux at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: <alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:20 PM
>>>> Subject: [alicebot-general] Comma's in <that>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I ran into a particular issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some AIML files are written with comma's in <that> and
>>>>> some are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example,
>>>>>
>>>>> <that>PRESS 1 TO KNOW WHAT THE MOUSE EATS, AND TO
>>>>> DISCOVER ITS COLOUR</that>
>>>>>
>>>>> and some are:
>>>>>
>>>>> <that>PRESS 1 TO KNOW WHAT THE MOUSE EATS AND TO
>>>>> DISCOVER ITS COLOUR</that>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do believe that <that>'s shouldn't contain comma's
>>>>> or other punctuation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that true?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't see anywhere in the spec pointing to this
>>>>> specifically, unless I missed something again in the
>>>>> specification :-P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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