[alicebot-general] New AIML Editor seeks Beta Testers

Sun May 14 13:03:36 PDT 2006

More information on this propsal can be found in this
post to pandora bots in case you're interested:

http://list.pandorabots.com/pipermail/pandorabots-general/2006-May/001521.html

> None of the efforts of the community will
> be rewarded with a
> version that includes free use to botmasters of the
> source or a binary
> version. 

It might appear this way from the webpage but none of
us can predict what this company will do in the future
with this product until it has been released in 2007. 
I wouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly or paint any
company that is offering AIML products (free or
commercial) in a negative light.  

The fact of the matter is that a commercial entity has
spent commercial dollars developing an application
in-house for their bot masters.  Why did they have to
develop the in-house product with their commcial
dollars in the first place?

> The next 'killer application' for the AIML Community
> is in my view an
> application that either is open source, or comes
> with a free of use binary.
> Until then I prefer a text editor over this
> application. 

Because quite simply this doesn't exist yet.  It
appears from the pandora posting they almost didn't
want to release their in-house product for beta
testing but Dr. Wallace convinced them of our
expertise and kindness to help.

I can see why they wouldn't want to post this product
for beta-testing.  They currently have a competitive
edge by bringing bots into the commercial sector
quicker with their product but they also have a
product others could potentially buy.

What are we going to gain from all of this? What are
they going to gain? What are they going to contribute?
  That's the questions that's making everyone nervous.
 Well this is my perspective.

------
>From the pandora post:

Actually, one of the roles of the panel will be to
develop a
forum, process and methodology for continued standard
setting and
evaluation and expansion of the Alice AAA AIML data
set,
reorganization of it for creation of additional and
custom
personalities and capabilities beyond that of Alice.  

and...

The first group is to contribute their sweat equity to
the
execution of the effort of the task at hand -
defining, creating
and implementing AIML and AI best practices, revamping
the Alice
AAA data set, forging a deep, recognizable synthetic
personality,
a relevant business purpose, publishing all of this
for the
advancement of AI, etc.

and...

1) Defining and implementing AIML best coding
practices
2) Reworking these across the ALICE AAA code base
3) Creating a deeper and synthetic personality for a
photo-realistic avatar with a purpose and a life-like
TTS
4) Having some fun and gaining some notoriety in the
process.
------

They are offering in exchange for beta testing their
software that we utilize their product to improve the
AAA set and processes by which to improve the set.  By
2007 they are shooting for a well defined and rounded
product to market and sell.  By 2007 we are shooting
for a better AAA set in which we used their product to
create.

I have no ties and recieve no benifts from this
company.  This is just my opinions and I hope to not
offend anyone in the community.  I just see a good
symbiotic relationship with this commercial comapany.

--- Anne Kootstra <anne at aiml.info> wrote:

> For a screenshot of the application visit:
> 
> http://www.ai-dealer.com/AIML_Editor.html
> 
> One thing that needs to be pointed out that the
> editor in question will be
> available in a basic and a professional, in both
> cases under a commercial
> licence. None of the efforts of the community will
> be rewarded with a
> version that includes free use to botmasters of the
> source or a binary
> version. 
> 
> The next 'killer application' for the AIML Community
> is in my view an
> application that either is open source, or comes
> with a free of use binary.
> Until then I prefer a text editor over this
> application. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Anne Kootstra
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr. Rich Wallace
> [mailto:drwallace at alicebot.org] 
> Sent: zaterdag 13 mei 2006 23:16
> To: alicebot-general at list.alicebot.org
> Subject: [alicebot-general] New AIML Editor seeks
> Beta Testers
> 
> How many times have you wished for the killer AIML
> editor app?
> 
> It has arrived.
> 
> Brian Hoecht and his team at AI-Dealer.com have
> developed what I
> consider to be the killer app for AIML editing.  
> Basically the tool
> has three tabs.  The first tab is like a combination
> of a Spreadsheet
> and a data entry/edit form for patterns, thats and
> templates.  You can load
> a huge number of AIML categories from multiple files
> and sort them by
> pattern, that, topic, template, file, or original
> order.  This is
> absolutely the best tool I have seen for managing a
> large AIML set.
> 
> The second tab displays how your AIML will look in
> XML format.
> 
> The third tab is a lifelike avatar to test the AIML
> you've edited and
> created.
> 
> Of course, you can save the AIML and export it to
> your favorite AIML
> interpreter (Program D, E, J, M, N, P, Q, R, Z etc.)
> 
> AI-Dealer and the AI Foundation have come to an
> agreement to invite a
> small core group of expert AIML developers to beta
> test this Editor
> 
> It is an invitation only and an all volunteer group.
> We are trying to
> assemble the best minds in the industry to show the
> media and business
> community how far the world of AI has advanced in
> the past few years.
> 
> The goal is to create working examples of a
> redefinition of the
> man-to-machine interface by:
> 
> 1) Defining and implementing AIML best coding
> practices
> 2) Reworking these across the ALICE AAA code base
> 3) Creating a deeper and synthetic personality for a
> photo-realistic
> avatar with a purpose and a life-like TTS
> 4) Having some fun and gaining some notoriety in the
> process.
> 
> I hope you choose to join us.   Please contact me or
> bhoecht at ai-dealer.com to discuss.
> 
> The new AIML editor is truly a killer app for
> advancing AIML development.
> 
> 
> Rich
> 
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