[alicebot-archcomm] RE: [alicebot-general] RE: dialogue

Christopher Fahey [askrom] alicebot-archcomm@alice.sunlitsurf.com
Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:42:39 -0400


>  Please don't speak for me.   I didn't even need any 
> convincing that the freeze vote was a bad idea.  It 
> was obvious to me.   

As I thought I made clear, I was speaking only for those who would like
to be convinced through argument and evidence before deciding to
disregard the board's decision. I apologize if I appeared to speak for
everybody or for you.


>  The decision to freeze the foundation by the board was a decision by
the
> board to kill the foundation.  It was suicide. 

I'm not sure I disagree with this statement - in spirit the decision to
freeze and the resulting reactions may, sadly, hasten the end of the
existing Alicebot AI Foundation. But it seems to me that legally the
story is simple: there is still an entity called the Alicebot AI
Foundation and it is frozen by vote of the majority of the board. Since
I'm not on the Board, and since the truth about what happened on the
board is impossible for me to ever know, what am I to do but assume that
the board's decision was the correct one?

I don't think the Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore was correct
even by the court's own legal standards, and I'm pretty certain that Al
Gore agrees with me on that, but both Al Gore and I and 50 million other
people had the choice to either start a revolution or accept the
decision. Almost all of us chose the latter.


> You can't blame Wallace for trying to create a new instance of the 
> foundation so that work on AIML can continue 

Richard has not called his new entity a "new instance of the
foundation", he has called it a "new Board" for the existing foundation.
Appointed by himself. That's the problem. 

If Richard wants to create a new foundation starting from square one
with new members, a new charter and new assets (name, website, etc),
that would, in fact, be a perfectly acceptable and elegant solution to
me. This time he might want to write into the charter a unanimous
decision clause or a veto clause to make sure that this doesn't happen
again.

-Cf