[alicebot-aiethics] Botsmut

BARKER Timothy alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:45:25 -0000


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FA24.0E0D07C0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't know if ppl treat bots totally as they would humans - it would
make for an interesting study, a kind of extension of the Turing Test
where one is measuring 'social intelligence', e.g. answering the
question:"can a machine feel" ? ;)
 
The classic text aligned to this is Reeves and Nass (1996), "The Media
Equation: how people treat computers, television, and new media like
real people and places", ISBN: 1-57586-053-8 Its a very good read.
 
Let us know of your website please !
 
Cheers

Tim

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: KAR1273@aol.com [mailto:KAR1273@aol.com] 
	Sent: Mon 23/02/2004 14:55 
	To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org 
	Cc: 
	Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] Botsmut
	
	
	Yes, I agree that bots must be capable of dealing with a wide
and unpredictable range of human attitudes. I suppose I was shocked
because my bot had only been presented for testing to a few friends; I
would have expected rudeness from the public at large but began to
wonder if someone I knew was perhaps  harboring a dark, destructive side
that had not emerged during regular virtual conversations. Can the way a
person treats bots be indicative of a general predisposition toward
others or is this just simplistic? I remember my sister experiencing a
very sophisticated bot that chatted and had a human form in her place of
work that had been positioned in the lobby to test responses; she spoke
to the bot on lunch break, and then when leaving at the end of the day,
she saw that the bot was being unassembled and that its head was lying
on the floor. She said that she felt a sort of affinity for the poor
thing and said to the botmaster "Make sure you keep him warm." She is
the sort who intervenes to care for sick and injured animals that she
finds...
	A society is judged on how humane it is to its weakest and most
powerless members; should persons be judged on how they treat bots when
no one is there to monitor?
	j/k...(sort ) but I can't help thinking of the fate of entropic
bots in AI. [the movie] where 'institutionalized' botslaughter became a
viable form of family entertainment.
	 
	Bots have to evolve constructive defenses.
	 
	Thanks for the input...I am working on chatbots at my website
which aren't terribly sophisticated yet, but I hope to incorporate their
artificial intelligences into these wired 'bottish' forms that I have
been 'weaving'  that are based on human proportions.
	 
	 
	Karen

The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for
the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. 

If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying,
distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on
it, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee, is prohibited
and may be unlawful. Kindly notify the sender and delete the message and
any attachment from your computer. 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FA24.0E0D07C0
Content-Type: application/ms-tnef;
	name="winmail.dat"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3FA24.0E0D07C0--