[alicebot-aiethics] Re: Re: Re: [alicebot-general] Re: cog
mod?
Tim Barker
alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Tue, 21 May 2002 20:33:12 +0100
Of course Humanity has faults but some great moments have occurred too in
our short history. I was just attempting to be objective - sitting on the
fence, if you will. I guess the same has and will be true of technology -
good and bad, positive and negative - whether AI or something more mundane ?
Tim :)
At 06:40 21/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Some will always see the glass half-empty, other half full.
>
>My reading of history is that humans have an unfortunate tendency toward
>anthropcentrism: we are the center of the Universe, the top of the
>evolutionary ladder, the end of the food chain, and the only creatures
>blessed by God with self-awareness, reason, and language. On top of all
>that, the Brain is the Greatest Computer in the World, a marvel of nature,
>wonderously complex beyond our ability to imagine. Somehow our unique
>traits of "emotion", "compassion", "imagination", "adaptability" and so on
>must be the wellspring of this specialness.
>
>Unfortunately it has never been proved that our intelligence is a successful
>survival trait. From an evolutionary standpoint, humankind is still almost
>statistically insignificant. Lately it seems to me more and more than
>humans may be incapable of solving the problems, such as nuclear waste, that
>we have created for ourselves. The flaws of human nature are all too
>visible in this world. Just turn on the TV. Just go down the street.
>Surely this wonderful amazing brilliant human brain would not permit so much
>suffering in this world.
>
>The brain is certainly getting a run for its money from programs like Deep
>Blue and ALICE. For at least 100 years, since the initiation of Moore's
>Law, the brain has been an inferior calculator. The brain is required to
>sleep, operates at a very low clock speed, and especially the male is driven
>to distraction by thoughts of reproduction far too much of the time. If I
>were building a computer from scratch, the very last material I would choose
>is meat.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Anne Kootstra" <AKootstra@interplein.nl>
>To: <alicebot-general@list.alicebot.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:19 AM
>Subject: RE: Re: Re: [alicebot-general] Re: cog mod?
>
>
> > yeah, as if I'm going to take Woody serious. That'll be the day.
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: alicebot-general-admin@list.alicebot.org
> > [mailto:alicebot-general-admin@list.alicebot.org]Namens Dr. Richard S.
> > Wallace
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 21 mei 2002 14:55
> > Aan: alicebot-general@list.alicebot.org
> > CC: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
> > Onderwerp: Re: Re: Re: [alicebot-general] Re: cog mod?
> >
> >
> > This would be a good point to remind folks that we have a wonderful forum
> > called alicebot-aiethics for disucssing topics like this one.
> >
> > "More than at any other time in its history, mankind stands at a
>crossroads.
> > One path leads to despair, and utter hopelessness. The other, to total
> > destruction." --- Woody Allen
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Barker" <timothy.barker@staffs.ac.uk>
> > To: <alicebot-general@list.alicebot.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: [alicebot-general] Re: cog mod?
> >
> >
> > > love, beauty, creativity, altruism, inventiveness, loyalty, liberty,
> > > imagination, adaptivity...etc, etc...
> > >
> > > At 05:32 21/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >8 words: Meat powered humanoid artificially intelligent self
>reproducing
> > > >robots.
> > > >
> > > >What were our strengths again?
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Tim Barker" <timothy.barker@staffs.ac.uk>
> > > >To: <alicebot-general@list.alicebot.org>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:19 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [alicebot-general] Re: cog mod?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think its important not to lose sight of our strengths as well as
> > > > > acknowledging our weaknesses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:34 20/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > > > Do we really want to make ALICE like us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I hope not. We are pathetic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Rich
> > > > > >
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