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[Tamara Thompson]

Thank you Eric  for your words, I had begun to fear that free speech had been suspended.

Go ahead and cry, it is very horrible what all of us as a country, as a global people, have been through this week.  <oh, very
sympathetic smile>  It is interesting isn't it?  How the attack affected the whole world?  That I think is so imporntant a
message, it gives us so much to be happy about and proud of as a nation--we're everybody incarnate here, we're so diverse that it
makes us strong.  <smile>

peace,
Tamara

eric thompson wrote:

> Well said, Tamara. I don't think I could have put it
> better. Everyone's praying for the dead right now. I
> feel myself compelled to think of this in a different
> way. I'm an atheist, but I find myself praying
> (surreptitiously) that we will find our way through
> this without destroying our souls. I've cried for
> hours facing the absolute horror of all of this. I
> know I'm too clouded at the moment to be rational. But
> I am clear enough to know that we cannot combat
> terrorism by becoming terrorists. To do so will damn
> us all.
> Right now we have to face down the demons that hunt us
> in this world, but not until we hunt down and silence
> the demons in our hearts. We have to do this
> cautiosly, carefully, and most of all compassionately.
> Revenge is evil, and evil begets evil.
> It DOES matter how we look at this. It was not an
> attack on the United States alone. It was an attack on
> human life and spirit. It was an attack on the world.
> King wrote about the effects that terrors inflicted on
> small groups have on the rest of the world, and some
> of us were paying attention. The things he was saying
> in that letter weren't just about bigotry, but also
> about human tragedy. If a horrible thing happens to
> someone, everyone is harmed. I would like to point out
> really wonderfully so much of the world has responded
> to our hurt. That response is bred from the same
> source that our own most heroic responses are
> nurtured: human response to a shared pain.
> Now more than ever, in an age of "globalization" (god
> I hate that word), with the greatest weapons ever
> leveled at the american people being fired from
> international airports, we must realize that the
> problems of one country (or one people) are the
> problems of the human species, and that we have to
> take care of each other the best we can.
>
> Okay, now I'm rambling. You really did say it better
> than I could, Tamara. I give you hella credit for
> this.
>
> Eric
>
> --- Tamara Thompson <txt5593@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Well, yeah, okay. all that.  agreed.
> >
> > I put my flag out tonight in respect.  I lit my
> > candles for the dead and the
> > hopefully-will-be-recovered-soon.    I said my
> > prayers.  I cried.   I am glued
> > to the tv which is unusual for me, hoping to hear
> > more good news of survivors.
> >
> > How can you or would you ask a people who have
> > barely begun to cope with what
> > has happened, to punish an as yet not quite defined
> > attacker?  To possibly
> > enter a global war?   Or did you not insinuate that?
> >
> > My child is my best 'flag'--she is the strongest
> > reminder and symbol of my
> > dedication to global peace and this world's future.
> > To get emotional now,  to
> > react out of anger or frustration, might endanger
> > the future.  Our children.
> > The world's children.
> >
> > To inspire people to react, to emotionally ennervate
> > people to rally about a
> > war cry and retribution cause right now, is to
> > inflict more pain on the
> > american people that you realize.  We will defend
> > ourselves, we will seek and
> > find justice, we just don't have to endanger the
> > world with our reaction.  I
> > think Americans are going to be smarter than that.
> >
> > Oh, but yeah.  I live in the same world where Ghandi
> > and Martin Luther King had
> > their lives cut short for speaking of peace.
> > Christ.
> >
> > I hope we all keep cool heads right now.  Our
> > actions and our words have far
> > ranging impact.
> >
> > peace,
> > Tamara
> >
> >
> >
> > LilBwana wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Group,
> > >
> > >         I have read for the last day the responces
> > from some people on this
> > > forum.  I have heard from other places that We
> > should Strike back, we should
> > > take affirmative action to kill all involved.  And
> > I have heard things like
> > > this : "Nationalism" is that emotional thing that
> > can be raised in people
> > > when tragedy strikes.  It's not neccessarily the
> > most reasonable approach to
> > > world situations.
> > >
> > >         The truth is that no matter how you look
> > at it, this was an attack
> > > on New York, This was an attack on The Pentagon,
> > and both of which are
> > > located in the country that was attacked.  This
> > was a blatent and outright
> > > attack on The United States.  The United States
> > which while we may have our
> > > problems is still the backbone of Democracy in the
> > world.  Which cuts to the
> > > bottom of what has happened.  This was an attack
> > on the very principles that
> > > this Nation stands for.  The very freedoms that
> > allow people to speak out
> > > against their own country.  Or to live your life
> > the way you see fit.  Or to
> > > sit and try to see the humanitarian way to do
> > things.  The truth is that we
> > > have been forced to participate in an activity
> > where we do not make the
> > > rules.  We face a situation where we have to play
> > by the rules that have
> > > been set.
> > >         When the rest of the world learned of
> > guerilla warfare, the only way
> > > to combat it, and defeat it was to learn to adapt
> > to the rules then set.
> > > When we hit the age of tanks we found that men
> > were not as good as they once
> > > were, now we live in an age of missles and bombs,
> > and the levels have
> > > stepped up.  Terrorism is a threat to not only the
> > US, but to any nation in
> > > the world, friend or foe.  And to make sure that
> > more innocent lives are not
> > > lost in such a manner, we must eliminate
> > terrorism, or the next time it
> > > could be the very ones you love, or yourself.
> > This is not a personal
> > > opinion issue, this is a moral and ethical dilema
> > that affects the whole
> > > world.  And the safety of the whole world.
> > >         Nationalism is that which helps to bring
> > together a nation so all
> > > men women, black and white, no matter the race,
> > religion, or sex, can come
> > > together and realize the same thing, and stand
> > united, It is one of the
> > > greatest accomplishments that humanity has.
> > >
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