[alicebot-aiethics] German?

[Tamara Thompson]

You're German?  <embarrassed smile>

Well, interestingly, I would have worded my thoughts differently if I had known
that, though I always try to write my thoughts clearly and honestly.

Okay, so educate me.  What are German kids taught about WWII?  You probably
know that we are taught that German's were the bad guys, real black hat-white
hat story.  How does a little German kid in these times cope with that kind of
world story?

Have you ever seen Herzog  or Wenders' films?  "Wings of Desire"? (I think it's
really called "Skies over Berlin"?)

If the rest of you guys haven't seen "Run Lola Run", a newer German film, you
would love it.  It's a great statement on time and choices, maybe very apropos
to this list.

Tamara

ps: one of my dreams has always been to compile a story of what our world
children, say 12 year olds, are taught about WWII in their respective
countries.  (collect all the various history books)  I've thought it might
teach us all more about how we view ourselves contributing to how we interact
in the world.




Christian Dro?mann wrote:

> Tamara Thompson wrote:
>
> > Oh, <smile>, I agree with you that your girlfriend, or  Brenda's
> > husband,  gets
> > the winning sympathy vote.  <sincere smile>
>
> ex-girlfriend...but still I would like to give her a body to raise her
> lifetime expectancy from 25 to maybe 120...
>
> > But Christian reread this!  We are both showing a very interesting
> > perspective/assumption on the artificial body:  we both agreed
> > that someone who
> > was older, who had already lived their life, wouldn't be as good
> > a candidate
> > perhaps as someone young.
> >
> > BUT ISN'T THAT the whole funny deal?  That someone OLD would not
> > have to be OLD
> > anymore?  Kind of an immortality question isn't it?  You people,
> > especially
>
> alright, but before we save the old, we must save the young...
>
> > Noel, really out-word me with your eloquence.  I try to be brief,
> > knowing how
> > hard it is for me to say with words exactly what is in my
> > thoughts.  So I think
> > I just said something important here, but not as articulately as
> > it should be
> > said.
>
> I know exactly how you feel...I'm German and my English is not too
> good...but I use this forum as a way to improve it...
>
> > We've been humans so long that we've internally accepted aging and
> > death...maybe the question is could we change our view?  Accept physical
> > longetivity or immortality?
>
> The question is: Would one WANT to be immortal? Do you want to live to see
> Earth decay? One day the sun will blow up...this would worry me if I was to
> live long enough to witness this event...(although I admit that the
> astronomer inside of me would LOVE to be part of the show...)
> Would you enjoy being doomed to live on while all those you love die one
> after another (unless you make them immortal as well)? If we all had
> immortal artificial bodys we'd better not reproduce or we will have one hell
> of an overpopulation within about 50 or 100 yeats...would you want to live
> forever if it meant to be sexually inactive until the end of time? ;->
> During the time with a person who was likely to die soon I often asked
> myself: What is worse? To die, or to be left alive?
>
> > Again, I agree with you about the worth of any individual being
> > supreme, and I
> > would not like to play 'God' with human life.  Doctors and
> > researchers have to,
> > or at least they 'do' that sometimes.  Hell, even corporations and HR
> > departments do that...In my personal view of cultures, we each do that
> > everytime we turn away from a situation, or cannot help another,
> > cannot take
> > responsibility for each other.  But that's me, and man there a
> > lot of people in
> > this world.
>
> I found my peace when I accepted that I cannot save all people in trouble...
>
> Christian
>
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