AW: AW: [alicebot-aiethics] Stephen Hawking

Christian Dro?mann alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Tue, 11 Sep 2001 04:17:06 +0200


Tamara Thompson wrote:

> Oh, <smile>, I agree with you that your girlfriend, or  Brenda's
> husband,  gets
> the winning sympathy vote.  <sincere smile>

ex-girlfriend...but still I would like to give her a body to raise her
lifetime expectancy from 25 to maybe 120...

> But Christian reread this!  We are both showing a very interesting
> perspective/assumption on the artificial body:  we both agreed
> that someone who
> was older, who had already lived their life, wouldn't be as good
> a candidate
> perhaps as someone young.
>
> BUT ISN'T THAT the whole funny deal?  That someone OLD would not
> have to be OLD
> anymore?  Kind of an immortality question isn't it?  You people,
> especially

alright, but before we save the old, we must save the young...

> Noel, really out-word me with your eloquence.  I try to be brief,
> knowing how
> hard it is for me to say with words exactly what is in my
> thoughts.  So I think
> I just said something important here, but not as articulately as
> it should be
> said.

I know exactly how you feel...I'm German and my English is not too
good...but I use this forum as a way to improve it...

> We've been humans so long that we've internally accepted aging and
> death...maybe the question is could we change our view?  Accept physical
> longetivity or immortality?

The question is: Would one WANT to be immortal? Do you want to live to see
Earth decay? One day the sun will blow up...this would worry me if I was to
live long enough to witness this event...(although I admit that the
astronomer inside of me would LOVE to be part of the show...)
Would you enjoy being doomed to live on while all those you love die one
after another (unless you make them immortal as well)? If we all had
immortal artificial bodys we'd better not reproduce or we will have one hell
of an overpopulation within about 50 or 100 yeats...would you want to live
forever if it meant to be sexually inactive until the end of time? ;->
During the time with a person who was likely to die soon I often asked
myself: What is worse? To die, or to be left alive?

> Again, I agree with you about the worth of any individual being
> supreme, and I
> would not like to play 'God' with human life.  Doctors and
> researchers have to,
> or at least they 'do' that sometimes.  Hell, even corporations and HR
> departments do that...In my personal view of cultures, we each do that
> everytime we turn away from a situation, or cannot help another,
> cannot take
> responsibility for each other.  But that's me, and man there a
> lot of people in
> this world.

I found my peace when I accepted that I cannot save all people in trouble...

Christian