[alicebot-aiethics] The bot and religion
LilBwana
alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:21:43 -0400
I find it interesting how you know so much, yet others have failed to
realize what you have come to know. Can I ask, was this information given
to you in a vision, a dream, where you stoned? Interesting how you choose
to take a simple verse and predict that it is the sole purpose to a
religion, regarding the rest of the scripture as just follow up. I urge you
to actually read the whole Bible before you make your claims. It is nice
to think that you have the answer, and your search seems to be over in that
general direction, but anyone who has read the Bible will know that your
statement is moot, and has no basis. Interesting how addiment you are
against having any basis of religion inscribed into the bots. The whole
purpose of a creation is to express the inner workings of the creator. So
to Stand high, and pronounce that religion is nothing more than fairy tales,
and a mix of other "ideas" is to say that the creators of the bots cannot,
and should not be allowed to express their inner beliefs. Their creative
license if you will.
LilB
> > What is the first commandment?
> > 1. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought
> > thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house
> > of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before
> > me.
>
> It's funny how a chatbot conversation about God can so quickly turn into
> absurdity or even blasphemy because of the bot's reliance on fallback
> patterns like the one that generated "His name is Rich." Frankly, I'm
> surprised that the standard AIML still contains anything about religion
> at all. IMHO, that stuff should have been the absolute first things to
> go in a project that was supposed to be about building an AIML set that
> was devoid of individual personality and opinion.
>
> Interestingly, the Ten Commandments came into existence (either by God's
> will or by a monumental creative act of humanity, depending on how you
> look at it) in a historical time period when the Israelites were *not*
> yet really monotheistic. The First Commandment does not even say that
> other gods do not exist - it merely says that the Israelites should
> worship Him (Jehovah) instead of any other gods. This was the beginning
> of the Jewish innovation of monotheism.
>
> In the same way that cities like Athens had a 'favorite' god (Athena,
> the goddess of wisdom) from among a broad pantheon of other deities, so
> did the Israelites have a patron god (Jehovah, who is thought to have
> been something like a god of war).
>
> At the time of the Ten Commandments, there was a very real inclination
> on the part of the tired and starving Israelites to turn to another god,
> Baal, a fertility deity. This is the story of the Golden Calf. The First
> Commandment simply says "I am your god, the one who helps you, the
> Israelites. Don't pay any attention to the other ones." It's *halfway*
> towards saying "There is only one God", but it's not all the way there
> and there's no way any Israelites at the time would have interpreted it
> that way.
>
> Christianity came about in a time when the Jews had pretty much
> forgotten all the other gods and God/Yahweh/Jehovah had become the de
> facto only God, omniscient and omnipotent. But Islam is the religion
> that, thousands of years after the Ten Commandments, finally codified
> monotheism: "There is no God but God."
>
> -Cf
>
> [christopher eli fahey]
> art: www.graphpaper.com
> science: www.askROM.com
>
>
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