AW: AW: [aiethics] What are humans made of?

[Jared M]

Alicebot AI Ethics Committee - http://www.alicebot.org


Thirdly, I will address the most relevant issue.  HUMANS DO NOT AND I =
REPEAT DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT HAVE INSTINCT.  Not only have you just =
denied years and years of biological study but you have just given an =
arguement that, again, contradicts itself.  You named certain examples =
such as the urge to reproduce.  That is not an instinct.  Urges aren't =
instincts, actions are.  Just because I have the urge to reproduce does =
not mean I'm going to do  it.  The human makes a VOLUNTARY DECISION =
based on its horniness!  If we all acted on urges as if we had an =
instinct to fulfill a lot of people would be in jail right now.  Your =
other example, when your life is threatened.  First of all that example =
is experience-wise just out and out wrong.  Have you ever heard of =
suicide?  Say it with me now:  suicide!  Secondly, you make a choice =
based on your values.  You value your life and so you will do most =
anything to protect it (accept give your life, and therein lies your =
contradiction...!
and PLEASE don't neatly label it a paradox).  You make a choice.  If a =
gun is pointed at my head I may just as well decide that I have no hope. =
 Another one, that we are innately in love with our children.  That's =
been proven wrong.  You'll have to do the research yourself!  Oh, I just =
read over the part where you stated that breathing was an instinct with =
your suffocation analogy (or should I say "sad attempt at an arguement" =
and not analogy).  I'm not even going to address that as the average =
high schooler knows that that is an involuntary function of a human body =
and not an instinct.  Fear?  An instinct?  NO, FEAR IS A FEELING.  An =
instinct implies an action.  Your dog has an instinct to hump your leg =
Drossman.  He's horny so he doesn't have a choice.  However, when I am =
treating a lady to dinner (shut up, I know I'm 16) I do not casually =
just hump her leg.  I, in fact, don't have instincts and so I make a =
value judgement, or choice, not to!  Fear is the same.  I fear heigh!
ts so I CHOOSE not to climb tall buildings as if I were Spiderman. =20

"Don't tell me that if you accidentaly touch a glowing hot piece of =
metal you start thinking "Hey, this is REALLY hot...my hand might get =
burned...I'd better let go of this thing..." because if you did, your =
hand would be burnt beyond recognition in the time this thought will =
take you."

Thank you Drossman!  You have just stated my point.  I WOULD let go of =
it because I have made a choice based on the pain I feel, and don't tell =
me you think the human mind is quite as slow as you wish it to be in =
order to better fortify your arguements.  You may call it an instinct, =
while well versed doctors choose to call it a reflex which implies =
CHOICE.  NOT INSTINCT.  I don't mean to patronize but, have you had any =
schooling Dross? =20



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