AW: AW: [aiethics] What are humans made of?

[Jared M]

Alicebot AI Ethics Committee - http://www.alicebot.org


Ahh but you both ARE Kantian whether or not you know it.  Pedro here, =
like many people, is quick to label his contradiction a 'paradox' and =
live with it.  Pedro, you are fully wrong.  A paradox is a contradiction =
(a recognized contradiction) that is considered a proven statement (let =
me give you an example:  the paradox of time travel...the fact is, and =
you should read Steven Hawking, time travel cannot exist).  Few (well, =
none) of these are actually valid.  Yours, Pedro, is not valid.  =
Instead, it's arbitrary.  Pedro, you and your Platolian friends have =
attempted to argue with the Objectivists for years and years.  Aristotle =
has prevailed, Rand has prevailed, Locke prevailed, Peikoff prevailed in =
all intellectual battles. You.are.wrong.  You're basing your arguement =
off truth!  And yet you admit there is no truth!

Secondly, Mr. Drossman, you ARE Kantian as well.  Both of you have =
argued your experience over my principle (which is sad because this =
constitutes MOST of your arguement while you never would have known if I =
hadn't said I was a teenager, GUARANTEED...not to mention the fact that =
you're not that much older than me...I almost excuse it when my 45 year =
old mother does it).  Experience is not the only means of knowledge, in =
fact, a secondary and less efficient means of knowledge.  You assert =
that you are Kantian by agreeing with SOME parts of what I'm saying and =
putting yourself in the "holier than thou moderate" position, a position =
which I abhor most.  I do not mean to argue, rather educate you (and, =
yes I will be so egotistical as to say educate you because I feel that =
pride is a great virtue, unlike you).  Your arguements have failed.  =
They will always fail.

Now to address a more relevant issue, ethics.  Animals do not make =
choices.  They just don't!  Sadly, you are outmatched in even =
experience.  We are the only animal who has reason (and I believe if =
someone says something ridiculous enough that people will believe =
it...take the statement that dolphins are smarter than us :P).  This is =
the source of our morality.  ANIMALS JUST CAN'T REASON.  Of course, you =
Kantians believe that if you WISH them to reason or if you PERCEIVE them =
to have reason they do. =20

How can you argue on the basis of truth when you admit to yourself that =
we cannot know truth.  Is that the truth?  You REFUSE reason as you do =
not believe in absolute truth.  Of course, you have asserted that reason =
is inescapable because you have chosen your arguements for  a reason.  =
You cannot escape me.  You cannot escape Aristotle's philosophy and you =
cannot escape our arguements.  You have lost the great battle.  You and =
your Christians, Nazis, Communists (and free-sourcers! *giggle*).  =
Subjectivism asserts that Objectivism is correct by its existence.  You =
are absolutely wrong.  Plainly WRONG. =20

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