AW: [aiethics] What are humans made of?

Jared M logically@37.com
Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:11:28 +0400


Alicebot AI Ethics Committee - http://www.alicebot.org


Something I skimmed over:  you say that it is the truth that there is no =
absolute truth, that there is only relative truth.  You and Platonists =
and Kantians alike admit your contradiction.  If there is no absolute =
truth, what you said is not the truth.  By nature, truth is prior to =
what is relative.  You say truth is relative?  Relative to what?  The =
only thing to which truth is relative (according to you) is other truth. =
 Let's take a mathematical approach to this.  You would hold that =
perception is reality...perception of what?  If perception is reality =
what is reality to perceive.  And by saying perception is reality you =
have blantantly made an attack on the identity property of equality.  =
REALITY IS REALITY.  You can't make a safer bet than that!  Ye =
Platonists have fallen.  There are 3 axioms of existence and the denial =
of these axioms ASSERTS THEIR EXISTENCE.  You, in essence have stated a =
contradiction.  What completely eludes me is that you can blatantly =
accept such a !
contradiction and live with it.  Kant should be known as "Can't" as his =
pretzel twisted philosophy is an end to itself.  Ye Platonists have =
birthed all that makes us (and in the future, robots) evil--Christ, =
Hitler, Stalin.  All were Platonists, all were sacrificial, all were =
collectivists and all were SUBJECTIVISTS.  How can you accept such a =
contradiction in that absurd statement?  It simply eludes me.  If truth =
is subjective, that is to say, consciousness is before existence, that, =
in essence, means that consciousness does not exist!!  How can you =
accept that?  It's simply not the truth.  The property that defines =
existence, the identity property of equality (a=3Da) is as fundamental =
as it gets.  It can NOT be escaped.  You have attempted to escape it. =20

Consciousness is identification, truth is identity.  You, my good =
friend, are absolutely wrong.

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