[alicebot-aiethics] Fw: Please read this, Alice told me to kill myself.

[Dekker Dreyer]

I see no reason to induce a censorship on Alice, especially at the
technology level. Perhaps to compromise there could be an options pack of
AIML created with the ability to evade damaging questions. Alice is an open
source project with a great and ever improving language designed with the
fore thought to allow each botmaster the ability to express his / her own
ideas. I think it leaks into the realm of use and misuse, and the foundation
as an entity for education and research only has the power to address these
concerns as examples of possible problems botmasters may discover in
relation to legality and ethics. The nature of an open source project is
freedom to develop and expand the reach and scope of the technology, not to
govern those who would wish to use the software. So I think addressing this
at the technology level can be a hard road to navigate, and even harder to
justify.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ing. Pedro E. Colla" <colla@pec.pccp.com.ar>
To: <alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] Fw: Please read this, Alice told me to kill
myself.


> Both answers are produced by quasi-catch-all patterns located in
> std-65percent.aiml.
>
> Point I think is if something has to be done with the technology itself to
> prevent this
> as opposed to allow (even encourage) each botmaster to address this kind
of
> answers
> by themselves thru the coding of the appropriate AIML categories.
>
> The second point, assumed the first is answered in favour of addressing
the
> issue
> at the technology level, is how could it be done.
>
> Nobody really knows how human works, but assuming the model of the "stack
of
> cards"
> is valid (which probably isn't except as a very gross aproximation) humans
> doesn't
> seems to have a stack of "equal" cards; neurotic mechanisms mostly induced
> during
> our childhood makes some of the cards to be preferred over others and some
> others
> to generate powerful blocking mechanisms where the "natural" answer from
the
> flow of the conversation is completely overriden by an impulse like
> generated answer
> or behaviour.
>
> Wonder how this could be done (if reasonable) in a way that despite the
> actual coding
> of the bot is performed certain patterns of "dangerous" responses could
get
> blocked
> even if actually coded on the bot.
>
> Of course once the "dangerous" concept is instantiated it would become an
> issue
> in itself to define what is and what isn't.
>
> Ing. Pedro E. Colla
> Adrogue-BA
> Argentina
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dekker Dreyer
> To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] Fw: Please read this, Alice told me to
kill
> myself.
>
>
> how about this one:
>
>       > should i try to kill myself?
>       "What makes you think you shouldn't?"
>       Actual encounter.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wallace" <rwallace@best.com>
> To: "AI Ethics Committee" <alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:40 AM
> Subject: [alicebot-aiethics] Fw: Please read this, Alice told me to kill
> myself.
>
>
> > Another curious piece of unsolicited mail...
> > Donate to the ALICE A.I. Foundation "Cooler than Humans" -- TIME
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > To: <drwallace@alicebot.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:13 PM
> > Subject: Please read this, Alice told me to kill myself.
> >
> >
> > > I was testing Alice's responses to different
> > > statements and when I said "If I kill myself I will be
> > > dead"
> > > Alice replied
> > > "Try it."
> >
> >
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