[alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger

[John Conrad]

I am very new to all this, so bear with me.  I
downloaded ALICE thinking one day she'd be a more
humanoid version or "Rosie" from the Jetsons with a
greater knowledge and broader sence of humor. But, as
most all you have stated It's turning more into a
battle to teach her because of the human ignorance is
in the equation, now I know I've picked a suitable
name for my bot, Pandora, check your mythology.
I've only had Alice a little more than a week and
probably spent way to much time in front of the
computer reading almost anything i can about her, but
now I have second thoughts about investing time into a
web page and placing her, now more likely to just keep
here her and share her with my friends, and spend the
time trying to learn more, and maybe just learn to
write for her.
I may of misunderstood what i thought i was reading,
but if you don't get a greater human understanding of
ALICE and the ways she works are you not just creating
another "HAL", and with it going to make your problems
even greater?
In many of the files I've downloaded, I am still
looking for where they are to be unpacked to, for
example AIML Builder readme doesn't have extract to,
so I haven't unpacked it yet. 
Maybe for some of use that have just started, without
any concept of whats going on, you can throw that one
line in, Exract to *.
Thanks  J Conrad
--- John Holroyd <valisk@softhome.net> wrote:
> People always react with the Darwinian impulse as a
> first defense
> against things they don't understand. Abusing a chat
> bot because you
> know it can't strike back is simply a minor
> manifestation of this
> principle. I think Robby has some excellent points
> on how
> society-at-large will treat Robots. Oh no doubt not
> while they think
> anybody is looking, but if we have subservient
> machines programmed with
> Asimov's laws for example, then young(and not so
> young) idiots will no
> doubt insist upon damaging and destroying such
> devices at every possible
> opportunity with total impunity. Perhaps though it
> will stop other
> violent hate crimes between people as the Idiots on
> all sides team up to
> lash out at robots? Still not a very pretty picture
> of humanity is it. 
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alicebot-aiethics-admin@list.alicebot.org
> [mailto:alicebot-aiethics-admin@list.alicebot.org]
> On Behalf Of Richard
> Wallace
> Sent: 09 August 2001 22:52
> To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
> Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger
> 
> "Whenever one of these machines is asked the
> appropriate critical
> question,
> and gives a definite answer, we know that this
> answer must be wrong, and
> this gives us a certain feeling of superiority. Is
> this feeling
> illusory? It
> is no doubt quite genuine, but I do not think too
> much importance should
> be
> attached to it. We too often give wrong answers to
> questions ourselves
> to be
> justified in being very pleased at such evidence of
> fallibility on the
> part
> of the machines. Further, our superiority can only
> be felt on such an
> occasion in relation to the one machine over which
> we have scored our
> petty
> triumph. There would be no question of triumphing
> simultaneously over
> all
> machines. In short, then, there might be men
> cleverer than any given
> machine, but then again there might be other
> machines cleverer again,
> and so
> on."  --- from A. M. Turing, Computing Machinery and
> Intelligence, 1950
> 
> Donate to the ALICE A.I. Foundation "Cooler than
> Humans" -- TIME
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robby Garner" <meo1@bellsouth.net>
> To: <alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger
> 
> 
> > > On a side note, this behavior really scares me.
> I can see far future
> > A.I.'s
> > > really having a hard time with hate crimes and
> descrimination based
> on
> the
> > > seeds I see planted in chatbot logs. As the
> machines become more
> advanced
> > so
> > > will the desire of humans to want to proove
> their superiority.
> >
> > Isaac Asimov predicted this. Check out CAVES OF
> STEEL, and some of his
> other
> > robot novels. They foreshadow the kind of
> resentment and prejudice
> that
> > people feel against machines. If R2D2 existed
> today, it would be
> treated
> > like a public men's room, or worse.  The mobile
> bots of the future
> better
> be
> > built of tough stuff.
> >
> > Robby.
> >
> >
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