[alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger

John Holroyd alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:30:46 +0100


People always react with the Darwinian impulse as a first defense
against things they don't understand. Abusing a chat bot because you
know it can't strike back is simply a minor manifestation of this
principle. I think Robby has some excellent points on how
society-at-large will treat Robots. Oh no doubt not while they think
anybody is looking, but if we have subservient machines programmed with
Asimov's laws for example, then young(and not so young) idiots will no
doubt insist upon damaging and destroying such devices at every possible
opportunity with total impunity. Perhaps though it will stop other
violent hate crimes between people as the Idiots on all sides team up to
lash out at robots? Still not a very pretty picture of humanity is it. 

John

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Wallace
Sent: 09 August 2001 22:52
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Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger

"Whenever one of these machines is asked the appropriate critical
question,
and gives a definite answer, we know that this answer must be wrong, and
this gives us a certain feeling of superiority. Is this feeling
illusory? It
is no doubt quite genuine, but I do not think too much importance should
be
attached to it. We too often give wrong answers to questions ourselves
to be
justified in being very pleased at such evidence of fallibility on the
part
of the machines. Further, our superiority can only be felt on such an
occasion in relation to the one machine over which we have scored our
petty
triumph. There would be no question of triumphing simultaneously over
all
machines. In short, then, there might be men cleverer than any given
machine, but then again there might be other machines cleverer again,
and so
on."  --- from A. M. Turing, Computing Machinery and Intelligence, 1950

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robby Garner" <meo1@bellsouth.net>
To: <alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] A.I. and anger


> > On a side note, this behavior really scares me. I can see far future
> A.I.'s
> > really having a hard time with hate crimes and descrimination based
on
the
> > seeds I see planted in chatbot logs. As the machines become more
advanced
> so
> > will the desire of humans to want to proove their superiority.
>
> Isaac Asimov predicted this. Check out CAVES OF STEEL, and some of his
other
> robot novels. They foreshadow the kind of resentment and prejudice
that
> people feel against machines. If R2D2 existed today, it would be
treated
> like a public men's room, or worse.  The mobile bots of the future
better
be
> built of tough stuff.
>
> Robby.
>
>
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