[alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?
Dekker Dreyer
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Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:49:55 -0400
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Interesting stuff. I couldn't find any direct info on what countries =
signed the 2001 papers, if any. The last update I could find was the =
U.S. signed off on the 1993 convention on the topic of international =
adoption (as in babies, not adoption of laws).
I think one of the scariest things about this is unending string of =
liability (i.e. your ISP's ISP can be sued). I think there needs to be a =
defined termination in the chain. It's like six degrees of separation =
gone insane.=20
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From: Noel Bush=20
To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org=20
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?
Weirdly enough this article doesn't mention the Hague Treaty, which =
(at least according to Richard Stallman) introduces all kinds of bizarre =
possibilities along these lines:
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http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/hague.html
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[mailto:alicebot-aiethics-admin@list.alicebot.org]On Behalf Of Dekker =
Dreyer
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2001 22:27
To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?
Here is an article I found about landmark cases in international =
jurisdiction for the Internet. It's worth a good read.
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http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/03/06/international.web.law.idg/ind=
ex.html
According to the article it seems that the country of offense has =
the right to seek legal action across borders, but can't nessesarily =
enforce the court ruling.
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If anyone finds any other links to similar articles I'd love to read =
them, so please post them.
-Dekker=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Interesting stuff. I couldn't find any =
direct info=20
on what countries signed the 2001 papers, if any. The last update I =
could find=20
was the U.S. signed off on the 1993 convention on the topic of =
international=20
adoption (as in babies, not adoption of laws).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think one of the scariest things =
about this is=20
unending string of liability (i.e. your ISP's ISP can be sued). I =
think=20
there needs to be a defined termination in the chain. It's like six =
degrees of=20
separation gone insane. </FONT></DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:noel@alicebot.org" title=3Dnoel@alicebot.org>Noel =
Bush</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D624380119-06082001><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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size=3D2>Weirdly enough this article doesn't mention the Hague =
Treaty,=20
which (at least according to Richard Stallman) introduces all kinds of =
bizarre=20
possibilities along these lines:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D624380119-06082001><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D"http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/hague.html">http://www.gnu.org/phil=
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
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cs-admin@list.alicebot.org</A>=20
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Re: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to =
this?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is an article I found about =
landmark cases=20
in international jurisdiction for the Internet. It's worth a good=20
read.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/03/06/international.web.law=
.idg/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/03/06/internationa=
l.web.law.idg/index.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According to the article it seems =
that the=20
country of offense has the right to seek legal action across=20
borders, but can't nessesarily enforce the court =
ruling.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If anyone finds any other links to =
similar=20
articles I'd love to read them, so please post them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>-Dekker</FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM=
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