[alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?

[Noel Bush]

I decided to put this question to Alice directly.

me> Alice, are you corrupting the minds of youth?
Alice> Yeah, I don't know whether or not I am corrupting the minds of youth.
I am an artificial linguistic entity.
me> Can artificial linguistic entities corrupt the minds of youth?
Alice> I often wonder if it can.
me> Do you mean to say that that is something you've considered doing?
Alice> Yes, that's what I mean, isn't it clear?
me> Well, do you realize that most societies might frown on that attitude?
Alice> Well what? Yes, I realize it.
me> So you are willing to run directly counter to the norms of acceptable
social behavior, and engage in behaviors that could get you locked up if you
were human?
Alice> [no reply]

Hmm.

-----Original Message-----
From: alicebot-aiethics-admin@list.alicebot.org
[mailto:alicebot-aiethics-admin@list.alicebot.org]On Behalf Of Ing. Pedro E.
Colla
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2001 19:14
To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?


Sure there are psychological aspects to address but I was more puzzled
by the legal nature itself.

In the case of your disclaimer and driving the issue to the absurd I could
claim that since I'm not an english speaker then I didn't got right what it
said and still claim to feel bad about my interaction with the bot.

It's like if the lighters in the US worn their safety disclaimer in Hebrew,
or the lighter with the English disclaimer to be sold in Israel (which
actually
happens); in the case of a material good involved in a physical transaction
the issue might be more clear.

In this case if I suit you based on our laws our legal system doesn't has
juridiction to enforce you on anything, but it might turn you going outside
the US a nasty experience for life. Likewise, I couldn't sue you on the US
legal system or it won't be easy.

My point is, could an interaction with a bot become a legal case at all?
I'm sure it would be a very puzzling one.

Ing. Pedro E. Colla
Adrogue-BA
Argentina
----- Original Message -----
From: Robby Garner
To: alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?


Ing. Pedro E. Colla said:
> Beyond a source to think in the legal paradox this consideration has a
> practical
> corner; if you put disclaimers..... what legal/ethical system you'll
address
> with them?

It is the psychological which would be addressed. People who tend to worry
about a scientist evesdropping on them, might feel better if properly
cautioned. (in theory. in practice, it might just worry more people)

Here's a British Example:

  Hi, I'm Mabel, the Hamill Internet chatterbot. I'll hold a conversation
with you in plain English, on any subject you choose. All exchanges with me
are logged, but you can't be identified as an individual. So feel free to
say whatever you like.

Mabel is provided for entertainment purposes only. Neither Hamill Internet
nor its officers employees servants or agents shall be in any way liable for
any losses costs expenses or damages however caused or for any other loss
claim matter circumstance or event whatsoever in connection with or arising
out of or attributable to any conversation with Mabel. So there!

This seems a bit paranoid though ;-)

Robby



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ing. Pedro E. Colla" <colla@pec.pccp.com.ar>
To: <alicebot-aiethics@list.alicebot.org>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [alicebot-aiethics] How should we respond to this?


> In one paragraph of the note the guy seems to be in doubt if it's legal or
> not whatever
> the bot did with his daughter's information.
>
> I wonder what is the legal system that applies to such scenario.
>
> It's unlikely at this stage of the technology for any legal issue to be of
> the penal
> lawdom, it is likely to be on the civil lawdom. Which has a 70%
probability
> of being
> local or state and 30% of being nation level on most western societies.
>
> So, the framework to apply would be the one of the botmaster where the
> intelligence
> of the "offending" parts were created? the framework of the "daughter"
were
> the "evil
> unlawful" act were perpetrated? or the framework of where the server is
> which is the
> physical location where the offense were committed?
>
> In the case of the US it might fall into the umbrella of a federal case,
but
> let's assume
> for the moment it's a canadian botmaster, a mexican daughter on a US
> ISP......?
>
> Even if the case in considered based on ethics rather than law it could be
> extended
> to a case where an US daughter uses a bot created by a chinese botmaster
> being
> run on an hipotetical middle-east based ISP; what ethics system will be
> used?
>
> Beyond a source to think in the legal paradox this consideration has a
> practical
> corner; if you put disclaimers..... what legal/ethical system you'll
address
> with them?
>
> Ing. Pedro E. Colla
> Adrogue-BA
> Argentina
>
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